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   Old Thread  #1000 13 Oct 2008 at 9.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
It's that time of year again,so I'm putting this back for those wanting a refresher or those reading it for the first time.

"Unhooking Pike" by Andy Macfarlane

I'll assume you are right-handed, in which case I'll describe unhooking as I go about it. You'll find most Pikers carry this out whilst in a kneeling position.

Lay the fish on its left flank, head pointing towards your right hand. You may want to straddle the fish. I use my left shin to prevent the fish from flipping. I don't apply any weight on the fish, I just don't give it any room to move. With your left hand, carefully lift the gill flap a little. Have a look under the flap to see the arrangement. You'll see three sets of rakers. Make sure your fingers haven't picked up any of these and slide one finger along the gill cover, towards the chin. When you get to the chin, you'll find your finger fits nicely into an area of soft skin with no teeth, no rakers and no obstructions.

Lift the head and you should find its mouth will stay wide open without force. You should now have the whole mouth cavity to work with unhindered. You should have a pair of 12" forceps and a pair of wire snips at hand, nothing less. The wire cutters are for fiddly hook-ups. Sometimes it is easier to break the hooks up for quick removal. Never use the snips for cutting the wire, that's a potential death sentence. As long as you have all your unhooking tools at hand, you should find the whole unhooking operation takes less than a minute.

If you are struggling, don't panic. Take the fish in the net back to the water for a good breather. Give the fish and yourself a minute to calm down before carrying out any other procedures. Allow the fish a minute in the water for every minute you have it from the water.

Don't be scared to ask a more experienced Piker for a hand. They should gladly oblige and if asked, will show you how to cope with difficult hook-ups. Pikers love being asked for advice....it makes them feel important and necessary.

Once the fish has been cleared of all oral metalwork. Lift the fish with both hands and carry it back to the water. Once in the water, use your left hand to support the head and use your right hand to hold the tail root. Don't grip the tail, just form a circle with your thumb and finger which prevents the fish from going anywhere. Pike sometimes try to pull away immediately even though they are exhausted. Just keep a slight hold on the fish until you are sure it has fully recovered. Make sure the gill flaps are working and the fish can hold itself upright. When it's definitely ready to go, you will know. Release your hold and the fish should pull away immediately. Just keep an eye on the fish until it has gone. If it's a really happy soldier you'll get a free drink when it kicks its tail.....
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   Old Thread  #60 6 Feb 2014 at 3.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeh that's the way I've been doing it but ill get better as I begin to unhook more
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   Old Thread  #59 6 Feb 2014 at 11.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #58 6 Feb 2014 at 10.23am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Think experience is the main key Mark, like you say there are times when there's no need to straddle the pike and unhooking can be done safely other ways depending on the situation as you state.
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   Old Thread  #57 6 Feb 2014 at 9.42am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Like Kev said is easiest but I do both ways depending where it is hooked and what side the fish is on if it's a small one. For anything over 10lb the the diagram way is best.
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   Old Thread  #56 6 Feb 2014 at 7.58am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If your right handed Alan then do as diagram B in your post shows mate, opposite if your left handed....
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   Old Thread  #55 6 Feb 2014 at 1.00am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
We have only unhooked a couple off pike lol. We did have the pike between our legs so it couldn't really move. Using left hand to its left gill.This is the clip I watched and copied . http://youtu.be/pj_YrxOXZRw

Next time ill put it on its back, does it matter what gill I put my left hand in to open when on its back? I first thought the pikes right gill would have been easier but that would maybe make it hard to put the foreceps in through the gill rakers if needed . So maybe put my fingers in its left gill just as I was already doing.. but instead off having it on its side ill put it on its back? Just like the picture bellow?

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Bloody hell Tim is nothing sacred mate

On a serious note though, Tim your right, get the fish secured in between your legs and it will automatically open its mouth once the hand is slid into its gill. This way it will not be flapping about and doing itself more damage whilst unhooking. Some pike are more obliging than others and can be unhooked calmly, mostly its the jacks that can be a pain......Read Andy's Post and you won't go wrong Alan. If there's one place I wouldn't go for advice its you tube, some of the videos are brutal.....
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   Old Thread  #53 5 Feb 2014 at 7.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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On it's back is easiest, like Tim said. On it's side is fine too, just make sure it is on the opposite side to the hand you are using to go in through the gill rakers. So in it's right for using the left hand, on it's left for using the right hand.
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   Old Thread  #52 5 Feb 2014 at 6.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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why would you want to put a pike on the side? i would always put it on the back.

they are way calmer and you can keep the jaws open more easily that way.
you also have better options to "straddle" the pike and at least secure it a bit between you legs (yes kevin, insert joke here )
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   Old Thread  #51 5 Feb 2014 at 5.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
We have been putting the pike on its right side to unhook it as that's the way most videos on YouTube shows lol. Will putting the fish on the left side make it easier?
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   Old Thread  #50 22 Jul 2013 at 12.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Some really good info and tips there for unhooking a pike, for me im a lefty so its all in reverse for me.
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   Old Thread  #49 26 Feb 2012 at 1.01am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Heres how to not unhook pike. watch for the second fish in the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo9M6Rq_3I0
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   Old Thread  #48 11 Jan 2012 at 7.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thanks for putting this at the top of the threads!!

My son wants to go spinning for pike (with lures), I have never caught a Pike and am worrying a little and have avoided the trip so far

This has given me some confidence that I wont get bitten or leave the lure etc. inside the fish..

I might even be pleased if he catches one.

Thanks!!!
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   Old Thread  #47 20 Dec 2011 at 9.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sound advice and good read, Look forward to any other threads you put up.
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   Old Thread  #46 12 Sept 2011 at 2.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #45 12 Sept 2011 at 1.03am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
cut the tips of the end of your forceps will give u a much stronger grip when unhooking i say tips i cut 3/4 off mine
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   Old Thread  #44 12 Jun 2011 at 8.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Absolute sound read Andy, Might also be worth a sticky your guide to removing old traces,
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   Old Thread  #35 11 Nov 2010 at 2.14am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I had to unhook a deep hooked Pike before, it lived but having to turn it inside out was scary.
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   Old Thread  #34 10 Nov 2010 at 3.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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the long pike dis gorgers are for deep hooked pike
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   Old Thread  #33 10 Nov 2010 at 12.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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i use those thin rubber gardening gloves,they have a brilliant non-slip pattern on them almost like a fingerprint,my forceps are the extra-long ones,anyone seen those long black pike disgorgers....are they any good?
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   Old Thread  #32 13 Oct 2010 at 11.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
cheers boys, thats answers my question nicely
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   Old Thread  #31 12 Oct 2010 at 7.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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ive got the muskie armour glove very thin ,great bit of kit,always remember its in my pocket after ive finished unhooking
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   Old Thread  #30 12 Oct 2010 at 6.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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at the end of the day its what your confident with,so long as you careful around the gill rakers.thats the trouble with a lot of other forums,dont do this dont do that,do your own thing mate
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   Old Thread  #29 12 Oct 2010 at 6.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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i always use a glove, as people say its personal preference and as long as you are confident in what you are doing, so what anyone else says! as already stated, the bigger the pike, the easier they are to unhook
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   Old Thread  #28 12 Oct 2010 at 1.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I bought a filleting glove with intensions of using it for unhooking pike, but after the first session i binned it off as dunkan said was getting caught on the gill rakers all the time and was a right pain i the ass just hassle you dont need when you have a lively pike to deal with..
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i ask the question because im having a argument with some guy on another forum whos bascially saying i talk rubbish that even if you use a glove CAREFULLY it will seriously damage the fish and they shouldnt be used etc etc.......

bigger fish like you say are easy to deal with the smaller buggers can be a pain
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   Old Thread  #26 12 Oct 2010 at 11.50am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I use a glove, you do lose feeling but it's not so bad on the bigger fish when you can get a good grip. Unhooking smaller fish is a bit tricky with a glove on, I find it's harder to get my fingers behind the gill flaps with out the rakers sticking to the glove which is bad. Once you get used to using a glove you can avoid these small problems
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   Old Thread  #25 12 Oct 2010 at 11.32am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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its all personal preferance dave i never use a glove as i think i loose some of the feeling when useing 1
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   Old Thread  #24 12 Oct 2010 at 11.30am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
would you ever advise using a GLOVE??

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   Old Thread  #23 22 Sept 2010 at 11.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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last thing in the procedure should be to weight the fish,that way you can return it in sling straight to the water,amazing how many people weigh a fish first,then remove it to photograph it,then walk down to the water with them
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   Old Thread  #22 6 Jan 2010 at 10.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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hahahahahahaha............Yeah, "Fear No Fish"!!!!
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   Old Thread  #21 6 Jan 2010 at 10.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You seemed to handle the "Crossens" Pike pretty confidently, Duane.
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   Old Thread  #20 6 Jan 2010 at 4.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well written and informative post Andy - Cheers matey
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   Old Thread  #19 7 Dec 2009 at 7.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Exactly the key is to stay calm otherwise thats when mistakes happen and then the fishes wellfare is at stake and nobody wants that.
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   Old Thread  #18 7 Dec 2009 at 2.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Brilliant post, thats exactly the kind of thread i was hoping to find on here.i used to use a chainmail glove and more often than not would struggle........i have watched pikers doing the hand under the gill method but struggle with confidence.........i will now endevour to practice some more,and learn to calm down, the most helpful bit there was to take the fish back to the water in the net if it gets a little awkward, thats my problem,i end up in a bit of a mess,get flustered and dont always get it right...........i will learn to take my time and stay calm
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Hi, I know this thread is a bit old now, but its new to me as I havent been on here for ages, good advice, but I would strongly recomend not "carrying" fish back to the water, but return it in a landing net, weigh sling or captive type unhooking mat.
sorry if this has already been covered somewhere else in this thread, but I get very angry to see fish being carried or people having photo's with pike or any other species standing up!
thanks and safe fishing!
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   Old Thread  #16 20 Oct 2009 at 3.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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just use 3,2or 1 instead of 4 fingers still grip the bottom jaw though and not a fleshy part,u can also get away with using ur thumb tip on anything say under 5lb just press it against the outside mouth jawbone(btm lip) be gentle but firm,if one does get over excited best thing to do is release yer grip and pull yer hand free so as not to get a flyin treble in yer hand the fish should be on the ground anyway and most likely will not sufer any harm, the jaggy bits on the smaller uns rakers are generaly to short to break the skin so raker rash is not as bad as with low dubs etc.
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imo the smaller fish are the worst to unhook and its nothing to do with where you put your hands they flip turn and flap all the time
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   Old Thread  #14 20 Oct 2009 at 3.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #13 20 Oct 2009 at 1.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Again can anyone help?ive checked out the diagrams but am still a bit stuck.is the area im looking to hold fleshy or an actual bone,im guessing its on the outside of the rakers and im guessing that you need to lift the area in such a way/angle so the weight of upper jaw/head/body naturally opens itself?

Possibly my problem was because I had fish of 3-4lb and the arrangements are so close together.it was a big tide so had the fish safely nestled in the edge so i could have a good look.

Dont want to get it wrong guys.I had one carp die on me when i was a kid(in a sack/poor oxygen was the only conclusion as it was in 3 ft of water)and that was one dead fish too many.

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   Old Thread  #12 18 Oct 2009 at 5.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nice write up, was down at the canal today by myself and a friendly pike wrangler was walking by noticed i was by myself and offered to help me unhook a pike i had caught, Good lad!
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   Old Thread  #11 18 Oct 2009 at 0.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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its hard to describe but if ye push forward with the back of the palm of yer hand and pull with yer fingertips whilst holding the bottom jaw (yer liftin the head from the neck) the mouth usualy opens best to have the pike with the belly facing towards ur stumoch, i find larger pike easier to unhook as with smaller fish they tend to rehook easier like when ye free a teble it can hook somewhere else bigger fish it has a clearer escape route. ye dont need to use ur thumb to much and try to grip it with the top side of yer thumb and not yer thumbtip as it can pierce the flesh. if ye fish alone its handy to take a little piece of neoprene so u can grip the swivel between yer teeth and maintin a tight trace to the hooks

jst realised what confused ye the bottom jaw is part of the head .
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   Old Thread  #10 17 Oct 2009 at 11.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi guys.very good article and very usefull to me as a newbie to pike.however im a little confused,you say about sliding your finger along the jaw to an area free from teeth and rakers.then you say lift the head.how do you lift the head when your applying contact to the bottom jaw?

I had a very small jack today that nailed a large lure and hooked in very close vacinity to the rakers.very tricky.ive heard bigger fish are easier to unhook.i fish alone so cannot be advised.further help would be much appreciated.cheers
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   Old Thread  #9 10 Apr 2009 at 9.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
very cool write up

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   Old Thread  #8 27 Nov 2008 at 4.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I stand in the edge of the warter and hold them in the edge untill they swim off.
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   Old Thread  #7 27 Nov 2008 at 12.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Great write up Andy, as said above me using the net to put a fish back isnt a bad idea either. I personally use my unhooking mat which zips up, place the mat on the water and go from there.
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smashn advice m8.I also think that once u get it unhookd & bak in the water hold its tail as u say but rock it gently bak&forth so it oxigenates the water round its gills & the big hen(hopefully) will recover quickly
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   Old Thread  #5 12 Nov 2008 at 6.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Anybody wanting new forceps go on to www.medicare.co.uk they are the best and very cheap you always get the 9" in the sale straight or curved.I bought a couple of these years ago and they are still got a great grip
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Excellent advice .................
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Hi andy thats some good advice on how to unhook pike.I all ways use a net to return my catch for the fear of dropping the pike.Just a diffrent point of view


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