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   Old Thread  #57 9 Feb 2017 at 11.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
On there fb page in 7 days bank fishing and 5 days boat fishing at least30.30s have come out
Prices are going up next year
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   Old Thread  #56 31 Jan 2016 at 5.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
never fished myself but if the chance came up I would
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   Old Thread  #55 27 Jan 2016 at 2.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You did better than me then. I did a bank day and just had trout pulling the line out of the clip all day and then the boat day the next day got cancelled due to the wind. Not been back since
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   Old Thread  #54 27 Jan 2016 at 1.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well done Mark, I reckon a river twenty is more difficult on most rivers than a chew thirty buy the amount that come out of there every year. Mind you with 100+ baits in everyday of piking it's still a lottery.

I had a run on a turbo smelt at dawn there last October and hoping for a thirty all I managed was a 7lb'er
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   Old Thread  #53 27 Jan 2016 at 9.52am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Me too, then again, a fen river probably counts as a river I guess? IN that case I have done it but I can't be arsed with Chew tbh. It doesn't really interest me chasing after the same pike everyone else has caught
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   Old Thread  #52 25 Jan 2016 at 6.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'd much prefer a river 20
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   Old Thread  #51 21 Jan 2016 at 9.32am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nah, not sure I can be bothered tbh. As much as i would like to catch a 30 it's a long way to go and I would rarther catch a 7lb chub right now.
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   Old Thread  #50 11 Jan 2016 at 5.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
line closed did any one try for tickets? I didn't even bother this year
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   Old Thread  #49 5 Nov 2015 at 5.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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seen that on there web site is about £600
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   Old Thread  #48 4 Nov 2015 at 7.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There is a golden ticket for the piking. Entitles you to a fair bit of fly fishing for pike and a few deads and lures days. They also openly admitted a couple of years ago that they do give preference to those that fished it from the start as a reward for sticking with it from the start. Doesn't bother me too much. It's still hard fishing and there are ressies that throw up 30's in my area, just got to be there in the right place and the right time
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   Old Thread  #47 29 Oct 2015 at 4.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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no golden tickets yeah right,but I do agree that the top pikers in great britian should get first go at the tickets( maybe they do or dont just my opinion) but I will have ago again when tickets come up.
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   Old Thread  #46 28 Oct 2015 at 6.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It just keeps on producing, amazing. I am concentrating on local ressies this year after missing out, try to find a local 30. I know a bloke that has loads of tickets on there this year, must have one of those golden tickets!
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   Old Thread  #45 18 Oct 2015 at 4.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I see is up to its old tricks it just blows the mind what was caught last week.
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   Old Thread  #44 28 Jan 2015 at 8.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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4 boat days for me courtesy of my friend Ian and 2 bank tickets for 1 day courtesy of the wife as they were offering no consecutive days when she eventually got through.
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   Old Thread  #43 9 Jan 2015 at 2.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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for some reason every time i rang,after the 4th ring it would lock my mobile and i would have to enter the code again
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   Old Thread  #42 9 Jan 2015 at 1.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Me and a mate gave it a proper go for three days until they sold out....constantly redialling and with landline on ring back for the day I was at home.....nothing to show for our efforts! Proper waste of time!

I accept that its a fair ish system (anyone can call and have the same chance as anyone else of getting through to book tickets) but there has to me a more effective system time-wise. Either outsourcing to a call centre or online.....they'd sell the tickets in a few hours and whether you managed to get some or not, at least you wouldn't be wasting all that time listening to an engaged tone! I guess its simply the financial outlay upfront that setting up a more efficient system would need that means it wont happen.

Managed to get some last year, but only on the third day of trying.
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   Old Thread  #41 6 Jan 2015 at 9.16am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
well as it was lotto time again over the weekend (tickets on sale) I did have a half hearted go,but was pike fishing instead
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   Old Thread  #40 13 Feb 2014 at 5.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My mate had a 28lb 2oz pike on boxing day on a venue exactly as you described, the main river is/was high and very coloured, the inlet is almost gin clear.

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   Old Thread  #39 13 Feb 2014 at 5.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Pike certainly know where the easy meals are, a river I fish has a small inlet flowing into it and various coarse fish swim down it to join the river and guess whats there waiting, friend of mine had two different 25's at this area and I've had some success also ( when its not in flood )
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   Old Thread  #38 13 Feb 2014 at 5.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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yes they do i was once collared on a private water (no signs i might add) and after spending a while chatting fairly amicably to most of the club officers as i was walking off and they had turned up with a truck full of trout and were putting them in and you could see pike waiting and picking the slower fish off

no grief over that as when they realised i wasnt after the trout and really posed no threat to their fishing they were sort of fine, id left a note in the car with my mobile etc and showed them that so you know no harm done and it even got me onto one or two other places but not that one again sadly
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   Old Thread  #37 13 Feb 2014 at 4.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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never thought of it like that but yes that is certainly a fair point and one to consider
especially when it comes to upland peaty venues that only have perch trout and pike in any abundance
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   Old Thread  #36 13 Feb 2014 at 4.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If anything trout are much faster than course fish and can scrap much harder.
Daft stocked rainbows thou do die very easily and a few % will die after every stocking within a few days etc.
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   Old Thread  #35 13 Feb 2014 at 3.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They definitely get fat off the dead trout and I wouldn't be surprised if the pike knew exactly where the new trout get put into the ressie for an easy meal
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   Old Thread  #34 13 Feb 2014 at 3.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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i allways thought,the reason they grow big (think i have changed my mind now) is that trout arent as fast as coarse fish and pike pick them off easier,and the mortality rate of these stocked trout wates and they spend there time hovering up the dead trout
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   Old Thread  #33 13 Feb 2014 at 9.48am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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great thread
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   Old Thread  #32 13 Feb 2014 at 9.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Is it allso the reason fish in brown trout/perch waters (ie most venues up here) do so well since id imagine a perch's diet is very much the same as a brownies?
Deffo agree with Brian too i do really well on trouty venues using small 4"-6" perch/roach/broonies.
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   Old Thread  #31 13 Feb 2014 at 0.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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there have been studies on this done on trout water pike
who what and where escape me know but pike in trout waters do better when there is a big head of coarse fish and they eat far more coarse fish than trout

what the idea was is that the extra energy they get from a trout is what helps build them up but because they continue eating other fish the cycle continues on and on.

i suspect its why some fish in big natural lakes get to exceptional sizes they are the ones that are better at getting at the brown trout in such venues
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   Old Thread  #30 12 Feb 2014 at 12.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think you're probably spot on Kevin.....they accelerate in growth as younger fish and then slow down as they get older.......I read that if you look at the growth rings on a pike scale they become more closely packed as the pike gets older showing that its growing at a slower rate.....would be interesting to see if thats true! I guess once a pikes body reaches its full potential in terms of size, then its going to be difficult for it to continue to pack on huge amounts of weight. There aren't many pike around that are capable of growing to 40lb, let alone 46 or 47.

John horsey was talking about the diet of the pike that are in that big bristol res on chris tarrants fishing show. He said they were mostly eating roach not the trout.....Im not so sure though......on a pike trial I did few years ago, which was strictly trout livebaiting only, although I didnt do too well the other boat about 100 yrds away had 4 or 5 all to the trout livebaits, so it shows they don't mind taking them!
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   Old Thread  #29 12 Feb 2014 at 10.14am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes I too agree with your theory Brian and its fact that a pike is all for saving its energy for that initial lunge at an unsuspecting fish. But I'm just thinking that the majority of its diet would consist of trout given the amount of trout in this water and thinking it is more likely to come across a trout rather than other species.
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   Old Thread  #28 12 Feb 2014 at 9.38am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Also any pike over 40lb must be near it's limit?
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   Old Thread  #27 12 Feb 2014 at 8.23am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Since this water is absolutely teeming with trout then I can't see it been competition for food


ill throw another thought your way kev


whilst its a well known fact that trout water pike grow to large sizes i dont for think for 1 minute that they live on trout . yes they may get a few of them but mainly when the trout die naturally as over the years when i have used trout livies i have actually seen pike shy away from them and the only thing i can think of as to why is that they are to aggressive ( as in their action ) . On the other hand most trout waters i have visited have huge shoals of normal bait fish ie roach and bream and perch mostly in the upper 1lb bracket now this is my theory why should any pike chase down a fast moving 2lb trout and exsert all that energy for a meal why they can just sit and wait for a nice big juicy roach shoal to come swimming by and grab 1 of those for very little energy loss
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   Old Thread  #26 12 Feb 2014 at 8.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Makes you wonder what the factors are behind this lack of weight gain lads, that's not a lot of weight in two years. Since this water is absolutely teeming with trout then I can't see it been competition for food, especially given its size, maybe its simply nearing its peek weight/size
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   Old Thread  #25 12 Feb 2014 at 7.03am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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that really does suprise me
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   Old Thread  #24 11 Feb 2014 at 11.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The 46 last came out 2 years ago at 45lb 8oz so it has only put on 1lb 3oz in 2 years.
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   Old Thread  #23 11 Feb 2014 at 9.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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if you have a look at the fatness of a trout it becomes quite clear.

my qualified guess as a chef is that trout have at least 2 times as many calories per 100g as roach do.
now akeep in mind that a trout is way more massive than a roach and you have the answer.

the same with bodden and schären pike which feed on mackerals and herring. they just take more calories in and grow faster.

if you guys would feed on duck breast instead of chicken breast all day long, you would also grow faster (not in length of course )
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   Old Thread  #22 11 Feb 2014 at 8.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Trout are very high on the protein enriched scale Jason hence why trout waters = big pike and quite a lot of them at a young age. A 20lb pike will eat three times its own body weight in a year so if the majority of these bait fish are trout then this pike is gonna get big and quicker than say a river pike......
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you will get the heavy weights from a trout water,i have read somewhere not long ago that a pike from a non trout water has to eat 6 roach to 1 trout to put on the same weight,dont ask me how this works ??? surly there would be more protien in 6 thats say 1lb roach then then 1 lb trout?????
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   Old Thread  #20 11 Feb 2014 at 4.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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because the 46 was more likely a 30,and yes if the 43 was caught i still reckon it would top 50,they have small heads because of the food they are eating,known fact trout pike allways have small heads
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   Old Thread  #19 11 Feb 2014 at 3.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No chance. Sorry but a big trout ressie pike will not put on over 20% in weight leading up to spawning. Now it is possible for a small pike to put that much weight on in a year maybe but a pike weighing over 40lb is pretty much at the limit of it's weight. Some of the 30's they are catching at Chew are only about 5 or 6 years old due to the nice diet of trout which is why they all seem to have small heads. If you were talking about general weight gain of a growing pike then that number fits but it will slow down as it gets bigger. If they really grew 20% how come that 46lb 11oz fish wasn['t over 60lb
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   Old Thread  #18 11 Feb 2014 at 3.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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the books i have read say 20% is an average, trout ress i would put that higher
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   Old Thread  #17 9 Feb 2014 at 9.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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i think 20% is too much for every specimen pike. maybe the smaller ones, but i doubt a 20lbs + fish does much more than 10%.
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   Old Thread  #16 9 Feb 2014 at 7.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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20%? I can't imagine a fat trout reservoir pike being able to put that much weight on, that would put it over 50lb. I reckon the 20% rule would apply to river fish and maybe some still water fish but again it depends how well fed they have been.
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if its the same pike .maybe its just the weather we have been getting,havent put the normal amount of weight on
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   Old Thread  #14 9 Feb 2014 at 4.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Maybe not as much extra weight as you might have thought but just had a look at the pics on the Bristol water facebook page and it looks to me like the same fish.....has got a couple of distinctive markings at the root of the tail that match up in both pics
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only put on a lb?i wouldnt of thought so,the normal is to put on about 20% of its weight around spawning time
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I heard the 44 that came out this week was the same fish as that 43??
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i hope he is i would be over the moon
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   Old Thread  #10 9 Feb 2014 at 11.38am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah wasn't that coloured by all accounts. A 44 from the bank too. Got to be pleased with that!
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   Old Thread  #9 9 Feb 2014 at 10.42am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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well the 43 didnt come out but was a cracking pike that did,there new lake record
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Doesn't look good for those fishing tomorrow. Apparently it has gone a nasty reddy brown colour with all this rain washing crap in to it. Will be a struggle by all accounts. Am glad I am not on there til November. Hopefully the weather will have calmed down by then If that 43 comes out though it will be a proper beast!
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all of you who where lucky enough to get tickets,i hope you catch a good one as it opens tommorow,and yes i am jealous,for one reason for the chance to have a go for the 43lb what was caught a while back,if she has put on the normal amount of spawn she is going to break the british record ,if she gets caught that is
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i only had a go on the sunday,i was working on the monday oh well better luck next time when the lotto opens agains
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My mate managed to get through on Monday and booked us two days. One on the bank and the next day on a boat in November
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as the lotto was open last weekend i did try and guess what couldn't get through
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   Old Thread  #3 1 Nov 2013 at 9.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Managed to get 2 days on the boats
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all sold out now
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   Old Thread  #1 31 Oct 2013 at 8.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Extra days have been put on for boats on chew in November ,be quick lads .good luck
Taken From Bristol water Facebook site tonight.

Note to All Pike Anglers

Despite a busy day on the phones there are still around forty pike boat fishing permits available for late November.

Please visit the following link for full details of how to apply.

http://www.bristolwaterfisheries.co.uk/news/1715/
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